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LG Product Pro have you heared anything rumbelings on the DARE by LG?

Whats LG's Position and feeling toward the DARE?

Is LG about to announce the Vx9800 "Double DARE" as a replacment device?

Just would like to know LG's position on this really wonderful but under utilized and exploited device?

I have a suggestion, the ability to turn sounds into ringers.

Its a simple and probably dumb thing but i got a ton of cool sounds and no way of using them. I cant even use them as an alert sound.

I also encounter a problem hooking the dare up to my laptop. Everytime i do, my phone freezes up and a little red lock appears at the top right side of the screen by the battery level indicator.....dont know if you can make the connection software easier to connect or what. What can i do to fix this on my own? I installed the cd that comes with the phone too.

also, this problem increased when my contacts/pics/vids were transfered over from another phone.....what can i do to fix this?

May I also Suggest you go up to the Verizon site under their customer forum and paste this suggestion there as well. The forum topic is

Verizon Community Forums : Mobile Devices : Cell Phone - General Device Questions - Suggestions for the LG Dare

Thanks

Ok Guys since no one from any side has come forth and told us anything about firmware... I decide to see what i can do about the themes and i can make custom themes once i get a under standing of xml so if any of you know xml and would like to help let me know... this will speed up the release of new theme .. ;-)

Also have been checking out the different phones being released and i think that LG Dare has been left behind and they have no plains of catching the Dare up in fact the LG enV Touch is the replacement for Dare with this being said I don't think they care or is going to do nothing more then fix bug's that cause running issues only.. I think that they need to give all of us a free exchange...

@LG why do you make such a waste full phone and charge so much for it... I can get a BlackBerry Storm for the same price and in fact if some one wants to sign a 2 yr contract they can get the BB for about 100.00 cheaper.. whats up with this...

I see that you have not came back to do any follow up post.. I guess you really are just like VZW .. You just don't care.

I would think that we meant more to the company's but i guess they want to see if we will jump ship or not..

I've already jumped ship with VZW and LG your next as soon as i found a phone i like in my price range and i will be making sure every one that i have a chance to tell will know just how LG and VZW treats there customers ... its said that i had a Nokia that was a dump phone with so much less in the hardware department but yet could do circles around the dare when it comes to the things it could do... LG YOU NOW HAVE BECOME A JOKE that we all will be telling very one about..

SO what about the ok for Open Source Firmware? cat got your tongue! because i have not seen where you have posted anything about this even a i am checking on it for you will do... but would like a time frame of when you will be able to have a answer... I think we all would like a Open source firmware then the locked up junk that is already on the phone...


None of us here is joking about us paying way to much for this phone in the state it's in now.. and what make it made about the hole thing is that the phone can do so much more but YOU and VZW want let us have it... but yet you give it to other phones ... so if it's not that VZW don't want any phones to have things like Java or OpenGL or Flash supported html web browsers with tape support then you need to answer WAY we don't have it in ours... Our phone cost just as much as the others and can handle it so .... WHY Don't you give us a more direct link to some one that is on up in LG...

best regards

I just got through talking to some of the VZW sales people and this is what they are telling me..



The Dare was replaced with the LG Versa and that the way VZW does things is they will release a phone about every 6 months and the new release is the feature phone with VZW leaving the other phone behind.. They where stating that VZW does this to get people buying new phones and that the Firmware updates are to fix just bug's like the static issue with the blue tooth and so forth.. So based on what they where telling me we should not expected much from VZW hence why they have yet to comment about this..



NOW here are some things to really upset you Dare owners..



1.) LG made the Dare with JAVA but VZW demanded that the JAVA be disabled / removed .... reason -- they don't want you to be able to use free apps they want you to have to buy apps from them



2.) LG made the Dare with OpenGL ES.. again VZW had them disable it.. reason -- have no clue since games like NFS 09 uses this.



3.) LG made the Dare with Flash Lite 2.1 which means that the browser could support Flash Content like the enV Touch and the Versa but instead they disabled this and a few other things in the browser.. Flash lite 2.1 is still installed because you can run swf files and all they would have to do is change the settings that states Flash content is support.



Guy's and Girls some of the very things that we want and demand are the very things that VZW demanded to be removed from the phone.. In light of all of this i do not see VZW adding support for such things instead they are waiting on us to give up and to just buy another phone..



Java and OpenGL is still there but all Brew files that are needed to access this have been removed thinks to VZW..



No wonder why they want comment.. They answer they have for us is Clear Get lost your wasting our time..



We the People not just the Dare users but any one that uses a cell phone needs to take action before it gets even worse.



Has any one went to a car dealer and bought a car and when you tried to turn the radio on it wouldn't work ... and to hear the sales person say will for a fee of 10.00 dollars a month you can use the Ford/Pontiac or what ever company's radio ... No why we the people would not stand for it..



So why do we the people allow them to lock our phones... They don't have the right but yet because WE have not taken a stand and demanded that something be changed.. The cell phone company's are to give us the services of being able to make calls and with the new technogle we have also give us access to the internet.. they do not have the right to restrict our phones but because no one has filed a class action law suite to make them change this they will continue to do this for no other reason then because they can.. EVERY ONE NEEDS TO make a STAND AND FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHTS...



I Dont think the phone companys should even be part of the cell phone makers group.. LG / Nokia / Black Berry / Samsung / and all the others should make the phones and sale them not the Cell Phone company's but I believe that they Cell phone company's has spent lots of money to keep the Phone makers from being able to do this which in turn because VZW has a nice little logo on the phone that says Verizon on it that they can do anything they want to the phone because what this is doing is putting the cell phones under custom vendor product which gives them the right to remove or disable what ever they want.. and they because we can not pay from the MF of the phones they have us where they want us ....... If every one takes a stand on this then the Government would have to do something about it..







OK about ICON's and things .. what colors would you like ...? what type of Icons would you like to see changed?





Also just some food for thought but if we could get it to where Open Source projects are excepted in the cell phone market just like the PC market then we could get everything we want with out VZW having a word about it..



ALSO ABOUT FIRMWARE... LG makes the base firmware which includes Linux mobile .. Brew run's on top of this and the apps on the phone like the DIALER, BROWSER, VZ NAVIGATOR, THE CAMERA/VIDEO program and any others like Mobile TV AND IM app are done through VZW.. VZW has the programs made for them and then have LG put them in the FIRMWARE.. which this makes all of those apps protected and the rights Belongs to VZW.. so you can not make any changes to any of this stuff..





But any way this is way LG states that VZW has the last word.. Since the phones are branded this makes it VZW's Phone which means they have the right to do WHAT EVER they want to them... Just like the TIVO DVR's and Direct TV DVR's.. the hardware is yours you paid for it so it's yours the thing is the software is not so in order to get out of this MISS that the cell phone company's has created is for us to start an open source projected where company's Like LG and Samsung would have to star making phones like PC's are made where Open source projects could be started which would give us better OS systems that are more secure and unrestricted.. THIS IS THE ONLY WAY



So any have any ideas as to how to get this Started??



any of you Lawyers? or Programmers? any of you have media ties?



It's going to take every one working together to make a change .. and it's time





best regards

I have another thing to add to that very long list of things that needs to be done...

You can add back Wifi....

yes every one the Dare has disabled Wifi or at least that is what i was Told..

By who does not matter... LG want deny it...

First of all, I'd like to point out to those requesting a zoom for the camera, you shouldn't use the zoom anyways since it's digital and you'll get a big loss of picture quality. You're better off taking the picture with the highest resolution then using computer software to digitally zoom it if you need to, as you'll get better results that way.

Also, to the person who requested a delete key in the calculator, the clear button (between Send and End) does this.

I also have several things I personally would like to see changed/added, some of which have been already mentioned:

-WiFi. It's ridiculous how many phones are out there with 3g, EDVO, etc yet do not have WiFi. It's just assumed we'll use the internet through the tower. Well, what about when we don't have signal but still have access to a wireless network. I can definitely see Verizon taking this away from us to force us to use, and pay for, their network when we need to get online. This is unacceptable.

-The animation with the magnifying glass zipping through the letters when opening the address book needs to go away. It just wastes time, making the user have to wait for it to finish before being able to click a letter.

-Ability to add folders under My Pictures.

-Speech to text dictation for texting, notepad, calendar events, etc.

-Arrow keys for finer cursor control when typing, maybe in a popout menu.

-Daily alarm scheduler, to allow for different alarm times each day of the week.

-More than 10 people per contact group. This one is ridiculous. I think it's safe to say most people have more than 10 friends and 10 relatives.

-Ability to delete contact groups. This may be possible already and I just don't know how, but if it is, it's far from obvious.

-Support for (many) more numbers per contact. Again, this is ridiculous. It's unacceptable for a "smart phone." I could store more numbers per contact on my old, very basic, no frills Nokia.

-Alarm 30 minute prior to event option, as well as an "other" option to enter any amount of time.

-Option to remember flash and other settings for camera.

-Faster shutter speed or image stabilization.

-Flashlight tool using the camera flash, instead of needing to go into camcorder mode and record something just to use the flash as a light.

-Ring volume scheduler, to automatically set to vibrate during working/school hours and back to normal after.

-Vibrate level setting, to make vibrate stronger or weaker.

-Always show time, while in browser, GPS, texting, etc.

-Automatically return to GPS with last destination or browser with last page viewed after making or receiving a call while using them.

-Scrollable list of upcoming events to allow for a quick schedule overview over the next month or so.

-Make links and text boxes are easier to click on in the browser.

-Ability to set default for vibrate on/off when adding a new event.

-Ability to select text by clicking and dragging, instead of having to click clear repeatedly.

-When replying to a text, go straight to text entry. There's no reason to go to the "Touch Here" screen, since a recipient doesn't need to be entered, as it's a reply.

-Fix Auto Thumbnail setting in the browser. It's constantly popping up when I don't want it to and not working when I want it to.

These are more bugs than feature requests:

-In weekly calendar view it is impossible to scroll up or down without selecting a day and displaying it.

-Can't do a hard return when entering a calendar event.


I realize this may be a waste of time, as I don't expect Verizon to implement many, if any, of these. They've already shown quite clearly what they think of their customers and what we should receive for our money. I very strongly agree with the sentiment of so many others here: We paid a lot of money for a phone that should have been great, but has been severely handicapped by Verizon to the point of being a ripoff. I love the phone, but it just doesn't have the capabilities I need or expected to receive for the level of technology it represents and the amount of money I spent on it and am spending on my plan. This is totally unacceptable behavior by Verizon and between this and a recent billing issue I had with them, I am very close to just paying the termination fee and being done with them forever. If the Dare does not receive an update within the next couple months providing much of the missing functionality, I'll just find a carrier/phone combination that does give me what I need, and hopefully others will too, as well as telling other people to do the same. Verizon needs to learn the hard way how to treat their customers, since they obviously don't know and don't care to know. I just hope that even if they don't listen, other companies out there that do care about their customers, and therefore about staying in business, happen upon this thread and learn the kinds of features cell phone users are looking for.

What ever happened to LGproductpro. She sort of just dissapeared.

okay how bout fixing the texting...

try this:
create a new message, or click reply
start typing with the word setting
turn your phone so keyboard comes up (don't hit the keyboard button)
then turn it back to the regular way....
try typing again and hit next...b/c when you hit next 0's come up like your phone is in abc mode....

this becomes wicked annoying after like three mins...also i've had 6 phones since may of 09...and the first time it broke was the first phone i've ever had to return....

LGProductPro.. isn't answering any more because they Discontinued the Dare..

Today I went to the VZW store because I was going to check out getting a new skin for the phone and when i went to the store to check on getting a skin for the phone , what do you know their was no Dares so i asked one of the sales people why their was no Dares out for Display and she said that they no longer care or support the Dare that they would still take care of the phone under warranty and that's it..


best regards

Verizon WIreless are jerks.
Check this out.
http://community.vzw.com/t5/Cell-Phone-General-Device/Suggestions-for-the-LG-Dare/m-p/64614
There is 15 pages of people trying to get Verizon to say something about the the firmware update. Then when everybody gives up and goes away they respond saying we are locking this thread. They were watching the whole time but chose not to respond. What a bunch of jerks!!!!!!

Seems like the website MobileRoar might have been shutdown (hopefully not) because of the Dare owners are now tired of verizon for lack of support for their phones.

I do not know how I lost this thread. Sorry guys! Firmware updates are released to older phones all the time. In fact in some smaller markets the Dare will be sold as new for quite some time. I wish I had more information for everyone. In reference to firmware updates I don't have the information until after it is launched. The final stamp of approval comes from Verizon Wireless. I know that both companies vaule their customers and do not want to set false expectations for consumers. We dont want people to buy a device expecting a certain upgrade and then disappoint them if it doesn't happen. LG does take info from this forum to help with updates, so your feedback is very important to us. I am gonna take a look at those Verizon forum threads and see if there is any info I can get at all to release to you. Thanks for being in the LG family. We will work hard to keep you..

@lg product pro- I truly understand that you do not know any information about there being an update, but I would just like to know in your own opinion do you believe that an update to the lg dare will be coming soon?

Well verizon hasn't said anything at all regarding the release of firmware v07. If you go to a verizon store the associates don't have a clue whether or not if they're going to release it. From what I have seen the LG Dare has been forgotten since verizon discontinued the phone. And the suggestions Dare owners are asking for has been implemented in the lg versa, lg enV touch, and the soon to come lg chocolate. It would really be a suprise if another firmware would be released for the Dare.

Such bizarre timing. Verizon locks out their forum, the Dare gets discontinued, MobileRoar freezes up (home of probably the most active Dare forum online), and LG is left hanging out to dry with the rest of us. All within DAYS of each other! Verizon employees have no idea about the Dare firmware upgrade or even when the Chocolate Touch will be released.

What is going ON???

I think this is a sign they are going to release the v07 update with everything we want in it!!!! Haha
I wish.
Ugh

Hey Chief. I agree it is bizarre what's going on with verizon. I do believe there are plenty of Dare owners across the nation that feel the same way we do here and verizon is trying to shut it down. I wouldn't be surprise when the Moblie Roar website start functioning properly again and Dare forum is removed. I might check out lg-dare.com website and see what's up with them.

LG product pro...is it any possible way to make flash available for the Dare since I've read here in this forum that the Dare has it built in...just that verizon didn't want it to work for the phone.?

why is vzw holding back ? how can we find out if they are going to release the update or if there is even going to be one . why cant they just let us know it would solv so many issues.